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be reluctant to compromise for now. >> reporter: the voters have spoken and house speaker john boehner says he has gotten the message. >> because the american people expect us to find common ground, we're willing to accept some additional revenues via tax reform. there's a model for tax reform that supports economic growth. >> reporter: does that mean house republicans are now willing to accept higher taxes on those making more than $250,000? not exactly. boehner says he will only raise more money from taxes under what he called the right conditions. >> does the increased revenue come from government taking a larger share of what the american people earn through higher tax rates? or does it come as a bi-product of growing our economy, energized by a simpler cleaner fairer tax code with fewer loopholes and lower rates for all. >> reporter: democratic senate leader harry reid also says he wants a quick fix for the fiscal cliff. but, he was clearly feeling empowered by a strong showing in the election. >> i want to work together, but i want everyone to understand you can't push us around. >> repo

coming off a smashing re-election victory or speaker of the house john boehner and his tea party cohort determined to hold the line against higher tax rates on the well-to-right now both sides seem to be digging in. president obama used a campaign-style white house appearance today to declare that while he's willing to compromise with the republicans his bisque position has not changed. >> obama: as i said before, we can't just cut our way to prosperity. if we're serious about reducing the deficit we have to combine spending cuts with revenue that means asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more in taxes. on tuesday night we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach. and that includes democrats independents, and a lot of republicans. >> eliot: mr. obama also said that he planned to meet with speaker of the house john boehner and other congressional leaders at the white house next year along with business and labor leaders. the president made it clear that even while talks were under way he wanted the house to move quickly to pass a middle class tax freeze

together, both sides have drawn some lines in the sand when it comes to taxes. house speaker john boehner earlier today said it's possible to get the nation's financial house in order without tax increases. >> i don't want to box myself in, and i don't want to box anybody else in. i think it's important for us to come to an agreement with the president, and by lowering rates and cleaning up the tax code we know that we're going to get more economic growth. >> here's what's at stake if they cannot come to a compromise. the congressional budget office says it would happen. the alternative minimum tax kicks in hiking taxes with more than half of married couples two children by $4,000 a year. it would ray taxes on workers and the trillion dollars in spending cuts that officials say cost jobs and slow economic growth. let me bring in our "news nation" political panel. we have zachary karabell and loy wis romano and david goodfriend. we have it covered. jonathan, i'll start with you. comparing what we heard from speaker boehner this morning and what we heard from the president

in the first block, actually there was hope today. you had house speaker john boehner who actually opened a door that many people thought was shut. >> for the purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> jennifer: what? so does speaker boehner mean what he says? here to answer that question and more, is host of "viewpoint," and former new york governor eliot spitzer. welcome inside "the war room." >> i like being here. >> jennifer: i was just railing about the far-right republicans -- >> i heard you from miles away. >> jennifer: but despite the denial, john boehner gave this statement today to suggest that revenue could be a part of a grand bargain. >> yes, but -- there was classic boehner and cantor. it was quintessential republican double talk. we are now at the moment where you have got to put your cards on the table if you are going to get an agreement. it's now november. >> jennifer: but put their card on the table by saying we would consider revenue -- they said it's

boehner today, what chuck schumer had to say, the president's expected to announce that he is inviting all of the leaders to the white house to discuss the fiscal cliff. >> right. i think what we've seen broadly is marking out of territory, with a strong emphasis on willing to work across the aisle. i don't expect president obama to go into specific detail of how he's going to get this done. i do, however, expect kind of this, you know, the election is now over, let us come together tone. and to be honest, i think he does have a stronger hand in this, than maybe even he thought he might have. simply because of the election results. could be looking at 332 electoral victory, larger than i thought, democrats picking up seats in the senate, picking up some seats in the house, not a huge number. if you're john boehner in the press conference he had, one of his lines was, i think we have a lot of work to do as it relates to the republican party. the republican party is trying to figure out what happened and i don't know if in the midst of a what happened self-examination you really want to go i

issue moving forward and there is a showdown in store. while john boehner has offered up a bit of a compromise he and harry reid have different ideas. >> people making all this money have to contribute a little bit more. >> the congressional budget office are analyzing person provisions of the fiscal cliff. it finds letting these bush tax cuts expire is the least harmful way to improve the economy. but the gop would rather see lower rates and eliminating loopholes. yesterday senator chuck smumer called it a rumpled stillskin fantasy. earlier this week the president gave a very heart-felt speech to his staff and even teared up a bit. >> you guys -- [ inaudible ]. and i'm really proud of that. i'm really proud of all of you. >> more bill is up after the break. stay with us. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you

house, but john boehner even said recently this is going to be long talks. is the first round of negotiations after the election but what is important to keep is mind is that john boehner has already back pedalled from where he was in 2011. he wasn't even willing to entertain the revenues he is willing to entertain in 2011. if you remember in 2011 when things looked like they were getting done the meetings were secret. >> jennifer: so in fact i want you to listen to a sound bite from house speaker john boehner this morning. >> the members of our majority understand how important it is to avert the fiscal cliff, and that's why i outlined a responsible path forward paving the way for entitlement reform as well as tax reform with lower rates. >> jennifer: so -- it's very interesting to watch the dance and knowing that boehner has a tea party wing that he has to placate, and knowing he has moved all over the map people have described him, really as being boxed in. >> he is boxed in, because he doesn't have the votes to pass a tax rate increase and the presi

a conversion of interest or views between the president and john boehner. i'm not sure that i see it yet. the president said you have to go to the clinton area, 36% top marginal rate. and you said a few loopholes that's fine but not the real battle we should be undertaking. am i correct? >> now boehner we're back to where we were before the election in some respects. there is a significant core of the republican party that simply will not raise taxes under any sixths. they will not raise rates. they still feel that they are pledged to grover norquist, maybe not to the american people. not to the constitution, but to grover norquist. therefore they're not going to go along--even if boehner wants them to go along. both sides the president and democrats on one side, boehner and the republicans are basically maneuvering for bargaining position for what is going to be a long-term negotiation. >> eliot: they're just shadow boxing, i think that's exactly right. i wonder and i'm trying to assess--i have no knowledge of what goes on inside the republican party but i'm trying to discern if boehner

reid and move on to john boehner. [video clip] >> they are tired of partisan gridlock. i have one goal, to be obama. obama was reelected overwhelmingly. republicans want us to work together. democrats want us to work together. they want to reach a balanced approach to everything, but especially the situation we have with the huge deficit. taxes are a part of that. >> the american people have spoken. they have reelected president obama, and every elected a republican majority. if there was a mandate, it is a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges we all face as a nation. my message today is not one of confrontation, but one of conviction. mr. president, this is your moment. we are ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. we want you to lead as president of the united states of america. we want you to succeed. let's challenge ourselves to find the common ground that has eluded us. let's do the right thing together for our country. host: ron, you are up first. what was the message to washington? caller: i really think co

that majority. i was encouraged to hear that speaker boehner agree that tax revenue has to be part of this equation. so i look forward to hearing his ideas when i see him next week. and let me make one final point that every american needs to hear. right now, if congress fails to come to an agreement on an overall deficit reduction package by the end of the year, everybody's taxes will automatically go up on january 1st. >> let's bring in our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. let's move the story a little bit. the president is going to on a trip overseas but he's got to get involved deeply in negotiation. his top aides will be meeting with the republicans on the hill. >> in the coming days the president has invited the leaders of the house and the senate, to talk about these negotiations and begin basically laying out where each side stands. right now what we know is that the major sticking point is over this tax rate for the top earners. the president as you just heard saying the tax rates for those making $250,000 and up must increase. house republicans making it c

, we have the president winning re-election. we have john boehner returning to the speakership. harry reid returning. to being the senate majority leader. and while the status quo was the big winner last tuesday, the history books will not remember the names john boehner and harry reid as long as they will remember what this re-election meant for president barack obama. >> that's exactly right. it is a ratification. it is an affirmation historically. you could argue that maybe one of the reasons he's crying is he's going to have to deal with john boehner and harry reid going forward. so there could be a very practical trigger there. but certainly, i mean, what mike and john have said is exactly right. it's an important moment. he's the third democrat, fourth democrat, to do this in a century. woodrow wilson, franklin roosevelt, bill clinton and barack obama. not bad company to be in. >> by the way, i heard you say that on wednesday morning. who was the democrat -- the last democrat before that to do it? >> well -- >> that's a test. >> -- that is a test. >> jackson? >> i guess it would

to tuesday's election results continues in washington. join us. house speaker john boehner will hold a news conference for it later this afternoon, president obama will speak to the nation. we expect him to speak about the upcoming fiscal cliff. that will be live at 1:05 eastern c-span. j kearney has a briefing schedule that is set for 2:00 p.m. eastern. >> if there is a mandate, is a mandate for us to face the challenges we face. in the weeks and months ahead, we faced a series of challenges and great opportunity. >> the american people want us to work together. they want a balanced approach to everything but especially with the huge deficit and taxes. >> the newly elected congress starts work in january. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff including the expiration of the bush era tax cuts and possible cuts to domestic and military spending. fall all the debates with live house coverage on c-span and the senate on c-span2. there was a conference yesterday. pollsters participated in a town discussion that talked about economic efforts and how this affects lobbying in the lame- du

speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> last night, he revealed to diane sawyer that his party was no longer seeking to repeal the affordable care act. >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care. >> there may be parts of it that we believe need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> but hours after that interview, boehner shrouded himself once again tweeting, obama care is law of the land but it is raising costs and threatening jobs. our goal has been and will rema

wants tax cuts for the wealthy to extire. house speaker john boehner drawing this line in the sand. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> white house correspondent brianna keilar is live from washington, d.c. for us this morning. brianna, speaker boehner seemed to be offering the president on olive branch earlier this week when he talked about the possibility of increasing revenue. but here he's taking a hard stance against tax increases. what does that say about the chances of a compromise? >> well, it may actually sound kind of like it's splitting hairs. but it's really two different things where he's talking about increasing tax rates. he says he's not okay with that. but he would be maybe okay, maybe amenable to increasing revenue. to bringing in more tax dollars, because there is a difference. and what he's saying is part of a chorus of conciliatory language that we're hearing from democrats and republicans on the hill. listen to more of what john boehner said in that interview. >> -- talk a

. president obama isad odds with speaker boehner. am they be stuck in the same preelection grid lock. joining us is senior advisor to senator harry reed reed. and spokes man for boehner. welcome and glad to center you on board. start off with the situation with the president speaking out and saying as far as he is concerned wealthy americans will pay higher taxes and that ended with his reelection and he believes that voters validated his effort to make it happen. speaker boehner said raising taxes are unacceptable. >> you are seeing the classic positions and everybody wants to make sure they speak for their constitients. and they want to make they are addressing the concerns. what we will see next week a call for the president for the leadership to go down to the white house. there is not that much time. we have a fiscal looming cliff at the end of the year. hopefully we can get both sides to come to the right. >> it is important for the president to not be intransient. the stock market took a beating. and that should send a strong signal that taking more taxes out of the economy for the ben

john boehner and mc mcmcconnell are as good as we have. >>neil: well the president needs speaker boehner more than mcth connell --. bucky>>governor huckabee: both are seasoned washington insiders. the republicans in the senate and the republicans in the house of representatives have to trust and follow their leaders. that will be anathema to a lot of republicans. you cannot have 535 people all negotiating for their particular part of the pie. it can't work. >>neil: who gives? >>governor huckabee: everyone the that is how you govern. >>neil: they have never done that. >>governor huckabee: you have to. >>neil: the president is saying elections have consequences. is the consequence of this, sock the rich? >>governor huckabee: the consequences of the election, we have more governors that are republican, same house of representatives, same senate, same president. meet the new boss, same as the old boss, nothing has changed. what has to change rather than sitting down and starting at point of where they disagree, they need to sit down and start at the point of where they can agree to t

and house speaker john boehner both insisted they'd hold firm on whether or not to raise taxes on the wealthy. here are excerpts from the president's first comments on the subject since his victory tuesday night. he spoke to a crowd of supporters in the east room of the white house. >> as i said on tuesday night, the american people voted for action, not politics as usual. you elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. and in that spirit, i've invited leaders of both parties to the white house next week so we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together. last year, i worked with democrats and republicans to cut a trillion dollars worth of spending that we just couldn't afford. i intend to work with both parties to do more, and that includes making reforms that will bring down the cost of health care so we can strengthen programs like medicaid and medicare for the long haul. i've put forward a detailed plan that allows us to make these investments, while reducing our deficit by $4 trillion over the next decade. i want to be clear-- i'm not

or are we more likely to see topless pictures of speaker boehner before we see a willingness to compromise. >> i wish i could get that imagine out of my head. >> i apologize but that's the reality. >> maybe yours. everybody is saying, look, john boehner has talked about the possible of raising revenues, he looks really reasonable now. he hasn't said no. the big question is, we've talked about this since the election, you and i and others, that what's at stake here is whether boehner can actually cut a deal and still remain speaker of the house. that is there isn't a mutiny, there isn't an opening on the right for a rebellion against him. he could not do that last time around in the summer of 2011 when the president tried to reach this grand bargain with him. it was clear to people working with him and in the room, democrats and members of the administration, that he himself would have cut that deal and would have, you know, walked away and held the president's hand and said look what we can do when we're adults in washington. but he was told by members of his own party, if you do that, our

. i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday expires. and $984 billion in cuts will be triggered. joining me now, andy sullivan and sher a tupletts. what do you expect to come out of the meeting friday and will any real progress made? >> oh, no, but i think the optics will be important. there will beside by side getting their picture taken and i think this will reassure voters and most importantly investors that they are serious about the problem and they want t to get something done before the end of the year. they've pretty much gotten a free ride from the markets. everybody knew this was coming up, but interest rates have remained low and the stock

're seeing certainly that in the case of john boehner and the big question for everyone is whether or not he can get his rather radical troops in the house in line. they have to make a deal. they will make a deal. the business community that supports both parties wants a deal. i am hoping that the president will hold to his principles this time and get a deal that is good for the country. the republicans will have to give up a lot. we're seeing signs that they might. >>tavis: you said to three thins that you always do when you open your mouth. let me pick on some things and get you back on package. tell me what you believe republicans will not do the opposite of compromise which is to dig their heels in. when somebody takes this kind of shocking, there are two ways to respond, gracefully or arrogant way. pompously. tell me why you believe they are not going to dig their heels in, looking there ones after this election verses compromising and getting along with the president regrets over the long term the me not and they may well dig their heels in. we do not know yet and i cannot predict wha

developed, the way the parties are, tuesday night we are all in this together, boehner comes out the next day, yes, we can work this out, but over time, the reality is still up to very different parties with very different values, very different constituencies, and when republicans starts to get to squishy or a democrat starts to move to the middle, they get pounded on. shawn hannity, rush limbaugh, and shultz, and rachel maddow. i started seeing earlier, getting e-mails from the pccc, which is the progressive change campaign committee, which saw the success of 2010 on the right and said we could do the same thing on the left. there is just more and more movement on the extremes, demanding in the party faithful to stay faithful. we still have primaries and republicans have to figure out a way to avoid todd akins and richard mourdocks. there is no increase in the christine o'donnell vote, the witch vote. the republicans had five seats in the last two cycles for the have sacrificed a seat by nominating sharon engle and christine o'donnell, and now the two this time. republicans are going to

closing loopholes. that is a reputation of what john boehner suggested in the days since the president has been re-elected. >> that's totally right. a key point, the simpson-bowles tax idea is kind of a magic pony, right. everyone agrees in the ab instruct, we can bring down the rates, close loopholes and deductions and raise revenue. if that's such a wonderful idea how come it's only come up now. how come no one has done it. the reason is because it's really, really hard politically. once you get into the specifics. if you're trying to tie all the revenue to this abstract tax reform idea you're going to get into a position where the revenue is about never going to happen because once you get into reality it doesn't materialize. >> you have to do both, john. you have to do -- you have to raise the the rates and close loopholes to get the amount -- >> just raise the rates. >> you can't raise the rates high enough to produce $1.6 trillion. >> you can get $900 billion from expiring the bush tax cuts. >> and where do you get the other $700 billion from from. >> do a little reform and cut the r

, will they come to terms of a deal? >>guest: speaker boehner struck a conciliatory note but what he meant is what mitt romney was talking about lowering tax rates and eliminating tax loopholes what erskine bowles supported in the "washington post" yesterday, a democrat. and you have senator schumer who noted the conciliatory tone of speaker boehner and he said it was a nonstarter because he will raise taxes on those that make over $250,000. >>neil: say he intends to do that and i am trying to save the nation beside read a prompter but i was trying to find a middle ground. if the middle ground is republicans getting over the issue of closing loopholes and getting rid of critics be like raising taxes and democrat could get over slowing the growth of entitlements is not like growing granny off the cliff they would be able to reach a deal to extend everything for six months or a year and get in the real work of making a simpler tax code or simpler budget process. what do you think of that? >> speaker boehner wants to do a small deal and have an extension doing what you suggest, a reform of a tax code

and speaker john boehner drawing different lines in the sand. will they break the stalemate? and if they don't -- that's coming up. >> greta: late today, david petraeus abruptly resigning after admitting to an extra-marital affair with his biographer. that's bad. but it gets worse. the resignation just days before general petraeus was set to testify at congressional hearings. coincidence? >> good evening, how are you? >> greta: i'm very well. congress pan, the affair, i mean, for the most part, i am trying to separate this out. it is a matter for general petraeus and his wife. but there is -- there is some parts of it that do have an implication. one is whether or not it's a security breach and that it should have been picked up and turned over to the house intel commits and whether or not that could be used as blackmail against him. your thought, sir? >> well, even someone as lowly as an assistant u.s. attorney has to undergo a background check with very invasive questions and you are expected to tell the truth and you are asked under penalty of perjury. so you can increase that expoinentia

john boehner said friday he would only be open to raising more money by closing tax loopholes. >> and i'm proposing that we avert the fiscal cliff together in a manner that ensures that 2013 is finally the year that our government comes to grips with the major problems that are facing us. >> everyone would be affected. payroll taxes would increase and bush era tax cuts would end. the unemploy wood see benefits run out and -- unemployed would see benefits run out and the congressional budget office is already warning of a 9.6% unemployment rate and double dip recession. >> very unusual for them to predict a recession if the fiscal cliff is not resolved. >> a solution may be sound say some in the president's largely ignored bipartisan debt commission. >> we've got the fiscal cliff bearing down on us. so why not look on simpson bowles although it's over two years later? >> and looming for our area, possible massive job cuts if automatic pentagon cuts are not stopped. at risk, 207,000 jobs in virginia, 114,000 jobs in maryland and 127,000 jobs in the district. tom fitzgerald, fox 5 news. >>

on abc news house speaker boehner ruled out any deal that lets any tax rates go up. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> vice president biden, meantime, told reporters off camera the voters gave democrats a clear mandate on taxes by re-electing a president who promised the following over and over again. >> another $5 trillion tax cut that favors the wealthy is not change. i'm not going to turn medicare into a voucher just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. i'm going to lower taxes for middle class folks. let's also make sure the wealthiest households pay a little bit more. >> keeping them honest, americans did vote for that by a slim majority in the popular vote and comfortable majority in the electoral college. they also increased the democratic lead in the senate. however, they preserve republican control of the house so no matter how ugly you think the tone in washington has been over the last four years, no matter how childishly you think a lot of lawmakers have acted on a structural level, w

. >> sounds promising. tonight house speaker boehner ruled out any deal that lets any tax rates go up. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> vice president biden told reporters that democrats gave a clear mandate that promises the same over and over again. >> another tax cut that favors the wealthy is not change. i won't turn medicare into a voucher to pay for another millionai millionaire's tax cut. i want to make sure that the wealthiest households pay a little more. >> keeping them honest, voters did vote in the popular vote. they increased the democratic lead in the senate. however, they preserve republican control of the house. no matter how ugly you think the tone in washington has been over the last four years, no matter how childishly you think a lot of lawmakers have acted, on a structural level who controls what, may be less change than meets the eye which is why what you will hear in coming weeks will sound less like this. >> everything doesn't have to be a fight. everything doesn't have to be a fight. >> more like this. more like each side getting ready for an epic figh

measures have to originate in the house. john boehner talked about the looming fiscal cliff and like the president he also hinted at room for compromise. you have to listen carefully to see the compromise that could be coming. >> it's clear that there are a lot of special interest loopholes in the tax code, both corporate and personal. it's also clear that there are all kinds of deductions, some of which make cents. others don't. everything, everything on the revenue side and on the spending side has to be looked at. >> senator chuck schumer in new york this morning on msnbc suggested that the right wing might be more willing to accept compromise now. he's being hopeful. let's watch. >> boehner wants to compromise. that's why he gave that speech. you know, boehner is not a hard right guy. he's a incompetent mainstream conservative and i think it's going to work because the hard right a chastened in a lot of ways. >> here is a republican who may not be quite in on what happens happening after the election, jeff duncan. when i look at the results of the election congressman duncan says

there was john boehner drawing the line not against tax increases, but increases in tax rates. >> listen, the problem with raising tax rates on the wealthiest americans is that more than half of them are small business owners. we know from ernst & young 700,000 jobs would be destroyed. we also know that it would slow down our economy. >> president obama from his part came into the east room. he also drew a line, but the line he drew was not insisting on higher tax rates but on higher tax revenues. >>> i'm not wedded to every detail of my plan. i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges, but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> so, larry, balance is the key for president obama, not necessarily increases in tax rates. signs of conciliation on both sides and late this afternoon the bipartisan policy center which has been pushing for a simpson bowles-type solution said they were encouraged by the flexibility shown on both side says. john harwood, appreciate it and let's get reaction, and we have republican whip senator joh

a big deal or grand bargain with the republic speaker john boehner. during election year we haven't heard any of that because they were fighting so much. now the president saying how he wants a deal. speaker boehner all recent days been saying all the right things. it's interesting that today the president didn't really move an inch toward the republicans and speaker boehner had some comments that suggested he is not ready to move towards the president. take a listen thrrvettle are ways to put revenue on the table without increasing tax rates. we have talked about this now for over a year. you could -- there is all kinds of information and data out there. but, getting into the specifics of that at this point would not be conducive to trying to come to an agreement with the white house. >> so the bottom line is that neither side has -- president at his news conference today or john boehner in his conference have gotten into the tough specifics about what's going to happen to taxes, what's going to happen in terms of spending cuts to try to get a big debt cut maybe up to $4 trillion

john boehner talking about the fact on the issue that has divided them on the fiscal cliff issue saying clearly that he does not want to raise taxes. he did say that maybe he would be for some kind of raising some kind of revenue. he didn't say what that means but talked about broad tax reform. on the other side of the capital. you saw right there the senate majority leader harry reid feeling like he has leverage here, it was a clear-cut issue, but also because of the mechanics of it. if nobody does anything, taxes will go up. so democrats realize that, they feel like they are probably right. democrats realize that. >> and there is motivation to do something. >> absolutely. >> there was a private conference call that boehner had with his caucus. what do you know about it? >> we were told this was a call where all house republicans were on it. he was sober and he tried to buck everyone up and said that s we are the last line of defense from an american that barack obama would design. he also had a clear message for rank and file. hold your fire. i need to have running room. i need to hav

. the president still insisting letting the bush tax cuts expire. meanwhile, house speaker john boehner remaining opposed to raising these tax cuts. do you think because of a lot of attention and oxygen being taken up in washington, d.c. with what's taking place with petraeus and allen there will be a way for like minds to come to a come prose mize. >> you're absolutely right, thomas. the media coverage is on these emerging facts on petraeus and other cases. the answer is, i think so, i hope so. we're not there yet. we have six weeks to work this out. two parts of the fiscal cliff, are across the board cuts. we'll be able to come one an alternative way to reduce the deficit in a smarter way to avoid that. the tax piece is a lot tougher and a lot bigger, the president as you know, we should immediately act, we the congress, to extend tax relief for 98% of the american people. in fact, taxpayers would get tax relief on first 250,000 in income. if we want to address the long-term deficit, it has to do with the cliff. speaker boehner needs to come forward and put that on the table as the president ha

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boehner come to an agreement. because i believe anything they agree to is something that will pass the senate. so it's really the house and the presiden president. >> -- is very remote. i think we're more likely to postpone the spending cuts. i think that would be disastrous for the economy. and i think we're likely to let the tax cuts expire than come back in january and cut the taxes for at least 98% of americans. >> joining me now to map out a timeline, nbc white house correspondent mike viqueira who joins me from right there in the white house. so are you getting a sense of the schedule of these events? >> reporter: the schedule is pretty much up in the air. pretty remarkable that john yarmouth, house democrat from kentucky is basically saying let's go over the cliff because we're never going to come to an agreement. the trouble is that cliff if we go over it, the congress at budget office itself says over the next course of the year if those tax cuts kick in, more than $1 trillion in new added taxes to the american people. plus that sequester, that automatic cuts to defense an

to retire. i think mr. john boehner wants to work out a deal. i really do. he has to get through. kantor and some of the others on the extreme right. -- eric cantor and some of those on the right. i do not like the extremism. it is not helpful to the country at all. host: thank you for the call. we read this at the top of the program. on our twitter page, there is this -- nancy cook puts it this way. "game of chicken." her answer, probably not. george is on the phone from the line for republicans. caller: i just think when the voters spoke on the past election that we as citizens are being shortchanged. we vote our -- our constituents voted for representatives, but we are not being represented. in the last 30 days of the campaign, i decided to be an independent. i was not convinced everybody was being fairly treated with the tax cuts. therefore, i believe speaker john boehner, rip cantor, reid, and the president to sit down and realize we elected them to look out for our best interests. what we do not get that, you get the backlash you got on the last election. host: a couple of other op

center, of course there was a but, you heard john boehner in particular, talking about the fact that on the issue that has divided them over the past year or so on this fiscal cliff issue, taxes, saying very clearly he does not want to raise taxes. but he also put out an olive branch, anderson, he said maybe he would be for some kind of -- raising some kind of revenue. he didn't say what that means but talked about broad tax reform as it relates to entitlement reform. on the other side of the capital, you saw right over there, the senate majority leader harry reid feeling like he was leveraging here, it was a clear-cut issue, but also because of the mechanics of it. if nobody does anything, taxes for everybody will go up. so democrats realize that, they feel like any have leverage and they're probably right. >> and there's motivation to try to do something on that. >> exactly. >> there was a private conference call that boehner had with his caucus. what do you know about it? >> we were told this was a call where all house republicans were invited to this. he was very sober and h

appearances tomorrow between speaker john boehner and president barack obama. the speaker will address a crowd of reporters at 11:00 in the morning. he will take questions from the press. we're told obama will speak at 1:00 in the east room of the white house and will not take questions from reporters. there will be an audience there, but he will not be taking questions. meanwhile, we're getting this report out today from the cbo, which is laying out the scenario of just how bad things would be if we go over the fiscal cliff. let me give you a couple of the key bullet points here. the cbo saying if we go over the cliff the gdp would drop by 0.5% in 2013. it could decline in the first half of the year, but then renewed growth later in the year. and the unemployment rate would rise to 9.1% if we go over the fiscal cliff, but ultimately the cbo saying unemployment would decline to 5.5% by 2018. so, larry, this sets the backdrop for the dueling appearances between boehner first then president obama later in the day. tomorrow the question is, can these two men come back to the deal they were doing

john boehner say that already. we have had votes in the senate where we have gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's given and the vast majority of the americans agree with that. the question is, how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise? at the same time, you fix the real problem and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. so, you have to approach both sides of it. >> let me turn to senator schumer. i will ask you the same question. if the mandate is compromised what do democrats have to be prepared to accept as a painful outcome in order to achieve compromise? >> well, i agree with you, the mandate is compromise. that's why we have a divided house and senate. i think if the house stands for anything it is cut government spending, as tom coburn said, and i think we have to do more of it. we heard the mandate 2010, where it was a clear mandate you cut spending and we did, we cut $900 billion in spending that we didn't like, painful to us. but there

guest: john boehner said he was looking for a golf game with the president. i do not know, talking to the obama campaign during the election, they were confronting an angry set of voters, even those who supported them. the theatrics in washington -- we have heard a lot of callers talk about this. i don't know if they have a place right now. this is an extremely urgent thing they have to address. it could have real consequences on recovery, really end it, and i do not think we will see a lot of that. i do not think the president wants to strike that tone. i think it will be pretty serious. it does not mean they will not try to get together in some kind of setting, but i do not think it will be seen the light it was in summer 2011. host: we want to thank our two white house reporters. thank you both for being here. that does it for today's "washington journal." we will be back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. with more of your questions and comments via phone and twitter. thanks for watching. host: [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satell

, john boehner, said quote, everything on the revenue side and on the sp spending side has to be looked at but when it comes to specifics he put the ball firmly in barack obama's court. >> i don't want to box myself in or anyone else in. i think it is important for us to come to an dpe agreement with the president but this is his opportunity to lead. >> here to sort what call of this must mean, we have all angles covered, including from the white house ahead of this daily briefing. we have jessica yellin, athena jones and ali velshi in new york. let me begin with you. we were watching the president walk in the east room. i noticed standing ovation. the energy in the room. the president pulled out his own pen saying yes, i'm ready to sign the bill flanked by marylandle class americans. when it comes to middle-clax tax cuts it sounds like the president is sticking to his guns. >> his terms are fairly stark. he's willing to negotiate on entitlements, medicare, medicaid. the white house democrats consider that a huge give the democratic party but what he is not willing to negotiate on is ra

%? this is a very clear issue and the first challenge for john boehner. 90% vs. 2%. he is -- they have sided with 2%. can he get them to give 90% of americans a tax break? if not, the republican party is in more trouble. >> ami sheree this order -- editorial saying that the republicans have no foothold in -- and little room to negotiate and the president will drive a bargain. >> it would have to say this. republicans are not dealing from strength. they were in 2010 when they elected 63 tea party freshman and i could block or pass anything they wanted. john boehner was to admit that they do not win and if they do not when you are not dealing with a position of strength. president obama is. >> 1042 to five days until the next presidential election. host: hillary clinton would be the best prepared candidate. one who has lived in the u.s. senate, a woman who knows virtually every head of state in the world and is a strong opinion of the inclusion of -- social inclusion. i come close but will not talk about that until hillary -- people decide what to do. >> what is your decision making process moving fo

crisis visiting our nation so far. and while president obama and house speaker boehner say they're willing to compromise they seem to have drawn the line at the issue of raising taxes. >> if we're serious about reducing the deficit, we have to combine spending cuts with revenue and means asking the wealthiest americans to pay more in taxes how we did it when bill clinton was president and the only way we can afford to invest in job training and manufacturing. all the ingredients of a strong middle class and a strong economy. some said despite the risk we should let our nation's economy go off part of the fiscal cliff in january allowing the top two rates to rise and they believe that doing that will generate more revenue for the federal government. here is the problem with that, raising those rates on january 1st would, according to the independent firm, ernst & young, destroy 700,000 american jobs. >> kelly: all right. angela mcglowan is a political analyst and joining us today, ladies, what we can see right now, there has to be some compromise, but washington is once again fin

of the house john boehner opened the door yesterday to getting the deal done and striking a more conciliatory tone. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. we want you to lead, not as a liberal or a conservative, but as president of the united states of america. we want you to succeed. let's challenge ourselves to find the common ground that has eluded us. let's rise above the dysfunction and do the right thing together for our country. >> meantime, senate majority leader harry reid said he is open to working together too, but there was a but. >> i'm going to do everything within my power to be as conciliatory as possible. i want to work together. but i want everyone to also understand you can't push us around. we want to work together. >> let me bring in legendary investigative journalist carl bernstein and political reporter for "the washington post" nia ma malika henderson. good morning to you. everybody is sounding cordial, but we still have the same players. has anything changed, carl? >> i think this is a huge chan

to the nation. president obama and house speaker john boehner say they are willing to work with the other to prevent deep spending cuts which could send the country back into a recession. >> on tuesday night we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach and that means askingthe wealthiest americans to pay a little more in taxes. >> i think it's important for us to come to an agreement with the president. but this is his opportunity to lead. >> and as you know the big issues separating the two parties remains tax cuts. the spokesman says mr. obama will veto any legislation extending tax cuts for or more. boehner says he remains unwilling to raise taxes on the wealthy saying it will hurt small business owners. next week, their first post election negotiations. >> local relief efforts in the wake of super storm sandy have intensified tonight ten days after sandy hit. a fairfax county group is trying to keep the -- help fill the needs of millions in new york and new jersey. live in mcclain loo more on this mission of mercy. >> i can t

the excesses' of your first term. john boehner seemed more open to the idea of allowing more revenue, the rate increases on fiscal cliff issue. i think the president, and i know his left wing, is certainly holding him to the pledge on the campaign trail that he will let the proper rate expire at the end of the year and intends to hold his own in arguing for that. host: margaret talev, that brings up the mandate question. does he say what george w. bush said, i have political capital and i intend to spend it? guest: if you have it, use it, or what other people say it for you. right now, president obama's game is not to come out of the box, acting takeda, and give republicans -- acting cocky and giving republicans an idea -- a reason to want to stick it to him. he is saying let's get this done. that is what he is serious about, there is no reason to set yourself up as having more leverage than you do. host: margaret talev, and the go to this headline in bloomberg. what does he do on his health care law, if anything? guest: so, it really is a little bit of the congress, and this will play out in

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